Sundial’s track record of listed buildings conversion

We have stated to the Craighouse Partnership that if we put anything inaccurate on this webite that we are happy to correct or remove it if they let us know. We have been contacted by William Gray Muir of Sundial about our summary of the minutes in the last post and our assessment that  Leslie House – the beautiful Georgian house and grounds which was tragically gutted by fire in 2009 – was the only comparable development to Craighouse we could find.

We would like to make it very clear that when we said this we were specifically referring to Leslie House because it is the only example of enabling development we can find in the partnership’s past projects.

As the Partnership are demanding that the Local Plan be overturned for the sake of their wish for enabling development – this point is very important.

We are not in any way trying to undermine Sundial’s track record in listed building conversions in the New Town. They obviously have a lot of success in this area including: 15-17 Carlton Terrace , 22/23 Abercromby Place, 64-67 Queen Street, 27-29 Queen Street, 24/25 Abercromby Place, 2,3,4 Carlton Terrace, 7,8,9 Rothesay Place.

They have also completed projects at Leith Hospital, Brunswick House and North Castle Street and have a number of projects almost completed this year.

So, we would like to apologise to William Gray Muir if we were not clear enough or gave the impression of not acknowledging his expertise in this area. I believe that the minutes themselves do indeed acknowledge these points in a lot of detail and our initial note of the meeting on the 26th  also brought this to the fore.

 

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Minutes of Meeting with The Craighouse Partnership Jan 26th 2012

We want to thank our members for their patience waiting for the minutes of the meeting we had with The Craighouse Partnership on the 26th Jan.

We were hoping to be able to bring you agreed minutes. We have sent these to the Craighouse Partnership and invited them to send their notes, saying we would accommodate any amendments or changes they wanted to make.

After a lot of prevarication, they have said they are not happy with them but have refused to send us their notes and they have also refused to send their amendments or the changes or to state what it is they are unhappy with. We have invited them to send us minutes that they have written instead, but they will not do that either.

They wanted to have another unminuted, agenda-less meeting to talk about them. Today they wrote to say they will talk about these minutes only if we agree not to disclose anything about their comment on the minutes.

We are beginning to believe we will never get a consensus and this situation will just be delayed further and further. As the Community Liaison Forum starts in 2 days, we regrettably feel we have to publish our own minutes of the meeting now, and the Partnership can put their own version if they wish.

The Craighouse Partnership said if we published these minutes then they would publish their own version and the public could decide which was accurate. We are happy for our members to compare and contrast these to whatever The Craighouse Partnership produces. [Added: The Craighouse Partership have since posted their version of the minutes, not agreed by or sent in advance to the Friends, which you can read here.] We had three independent members of the group present at the meeting and have said at every point that we are willing to correct any inaccuracy either in these minutes or on our website. However, we cannot do that unless the Craighouse Partnership tell us what they want corrected.

I must apologise for the length of the minutes. They cover very complex issues and the meeting was 3 hours in duration – and these detailed minutes reflect this.

Key Points

The key points that came out of the meeting for us is that:

  • The Craighouse Partnership are asking for Planning Policy to be ignored in favour of a cross-subsidising maintenance model for which they could provide no figures nor examples.
  • The revised capital costs given to us at the meeting would still deliver a profit to the developers with no new-build element, under their original proposals for 90 flats in the old buildings at the conservative estimate of £400,000 each.
  • The projects we were given as examples of Mountgrange’s track record need serious investigating and pose serious questions about the suitability of this company which has little history of similar development but a big history of land speculation and making money through service charges.
  • Leslie House in Fife is the only comparable development in terms of listed convertion with enabling development we could find that any member of the partnership had done and ended with a building gutted through fire. [We have corrected this sentence after complaint from William Gray Muir from Sundial and issued a clarification of this point here.]
  • The relation of Craighouse and Caltongate needs thorough research and investigation.

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Community Liaison Forum Announced

We were contacted today by the Evening News about the new Community Liaison Forum  that is meeting next week.

We were a little surprised not to receive a formal invitation by The Craighouse Partnership themselves before the press release was issued – but we are looking forward to taking part and discussing some of the issues with the other community representatives invited. It is a shame this is not an open meeting for the general public to attend, but we hope a productive dialogue will emerge and we will try and keep our members informed going forward. Continue reading

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Another packed meeting

Well, another packed meeting took place on Thurs. It was brilliant to see so many people there (including the unfortunate table of diners who found themselves stuck in the middle of our meeting room at the start through a double-booking mix-up!).

Thanks so much, everyone, for a great meeting. It was terrific to receive so much support – we really appreciate it.

Here’s a photo of some of the members who attended one of our early meetings last autumn in the Waiting Room pub.

 

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Mountgrange’s Track Record

The proposed Craighouse development is funded by Mountgrange. Many people in Edinburgh will know Mountgrange because of the failed Caltongate development. While we were out collecting signatures for our petition, someone came up to us and said they had been looking into Mountgrange and couldn’t find any development projects that Mountgrange had funded to completion. That seemed strange, so we checked, and came up with the same problem: despite having several projects with planning permission for several years, we couldn’t find any projects that Mountgrange had funded much development for, beyond a little demolition.

This seemed unlikely, so, when we met the developers recently, we asked what projects Mountgrange had funded in the past. When they listed three very impressive-sounding projects, we thought: great, mystery solved. Continue reading

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Why has Craighouse been sold to an Offshore Company?

Who really owns Craighouse?

You might have thought this should be a simple question. But, like many other simple questions about the apparent proposed development of Craighouse campus, the answer is anything but.

For some, this question is irrelevant. What difference does it make who owns the site?

But for us, and for anyone who cares about the buildings and the landscape, this question is critical.

Why does Ownership Matter?

It is the owners who are the real decision makers and will decide what happens to Craighouse, not their contractors or fronts-people. Any officials hoping for “contributions” to schooling or traffic, should be extra sure that they know who they are talking to – or any such promises could turn out to be nothing but thin air. Continue reading

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What is Napier’s Involvement with the Craighouse Development?

  • If Napier received millions of pounds in grant funding to maintain the beautiful Craighouse site for the public use, why is it now involved in a secretive property development consortium?
  • What is Napier’s financial interest in the development at Craighouse?
  • Is Napier acting as a property developer?
  • Is the sale of Craighouse in the public interest?

The Craighouse Partnership: Introduction

We are bringing you a series of articles about the main players in the Craighouse Partnership and who now owns the site at Craighouse.

This should be simple, yes? Unfortunately not.  However, we have done our best to break it down as simply as possible for anyone who is (quite rightly) confused. So, please stick with it. Continue reading

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Evening News Article and Site Tours Update

Green MSP Councillor Alison Johnstone and candidate Melanie Main recently attended a site tour. Click to read statements

We were contacted by the Evening News about the possibility of The Fields in Trust‘s involvement with safeguarding a piece of land at Craighouse.  As we say in the article, whilst we welcome any means of protecting the site it is important that the site is not salami-sliced with one part’s protection buying development of the rest. You can read the full Evening News article about this here.

We would also like to make it clear that the Friends have not been party to any discussion about this, nor have we been “offered” any stretch of land. We have invited Jenny Dawe to accompany us on a site visit which she has accepted and we look forward to finding out more about this particular issue then.

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Petition Continues to Rocket upward – 4001 signatures and counting!

The new target of 4k signatures has been reached and smashed! The petition now stands at the rather frighteningly exact:

4001 signatures!!!

Nearly all of these have been gathered on the ground locally – mainly in Craiglockhart and Morningside. This is an extraordinary response and reflects the love people have for this important green space and the great concern about what is being proposed.

This is, of course, not just an issue that affects the local communities in Craiglockhart and Morningside but people all across Edinburgh who care about Edinburgh’s seven hills and about the effect on other green spaces in the city if excessive development is allowed over this highly protected landscape.

We do not know when the developers will put their application in to the planning department, but the petition will continue in the meantime – showing the developers, the press and our elected representatives that people care.

If you can help, please download the petition (in the sidebar of this site), collect signatures and email us at petition@friendsofcraighouse.com and we can arrange to pick it up from you.

Many many thanks to everyone working on this, everyone who has already signed and the places that are lending their support by displaying posters and petitions.  It really is terrific!

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Pledges of Commitment and Support from Our Politicians and National Organisations

Craighouse is an issue that will affect green space all over the city. It is a cross party issue, so we are delighted to have received the following statements of support from Local Councillors and we will be putting these on a permanent page on the website and adding to them as we talk to politicians and interested organisations.

We have support from the Greens (Alison Johnstone and Melanie Main), Conservatives (Mark McInnes) and Labour (Andrew Burns and Paul Godzik). We would like to thank them very much for their support. We expect to be able announce further quotes of support soon. Continue reading

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